Yes, we have an interesting discussion for readers in this one. The last time I took the time to write about impact I chose to discuss Justin and Tommy. Two baddies that left impact for different reasons.
While Tommy was vicious in his own right, Justin was able to manipulate Ellie beyond recognition. However, Chapter two will discuss two of the major players from the series. Two baddies that would be on the Mount Rushmore of bad guys from the series.
While we often discuss Chuck and Sarah, the focus isn’t on them, but more on the impact Nicholas Quinn and Daniel Shaw had on the characters as villains of the show. This means we won’t discuss the first twelve episodes of S3, but when Shaw returned in Subway. Shaw and Quinn both did damage, but the overall cake goes to Nickolas. Here’s why.
It’s no secret on this site how much I love Daniel Shaw, but when I think of impact I think of doing significant damage that decapitates the spirits of others and nothing can be more devastating than messing with a man’s family.
Introduction to Team Bartowski
When we talk about impact nothing can be more vicious than building a wedge between members of a team. Daniel Shaw’s manipulation of Chuck and Sarah makes his turn in the latter part of S3 so much fun to watch, but the reality is Shaw’s actions started on this day.
The fact that Shaw believed The Ring was the one behind his wife’s murder comes with a lie and manipulation from his part. Was he right to turn? Most men would in that regard. How could one go on working with the one who pulled the trigger and work alongside the agency who ordered the hit?
You can say Shaw was a pawn in a bigger picture, which was never explored by the writers of Chuck. Decker made you believe Shaw was apart of a bigger conspiracy, but the fact is Shaw used information to make Decker become a foot soldier. Thus, Decker did what Justin was doing in S3.
However, Shaw’s manipulation of Team Bartowski occured while still on good terms with Chuck and Sarah. Michael pointed out how Shaw’s arrival on the scene could be interpreted as being in position to steal Sarah from the team, but I disagree because a file doesn’t tell you what the eye can see.
Shaw needed to see the team in action. Chuck was a liability because of his emotions. Sarah went through a crisis of sorts with Chuck performing Kung Fu and Bryce being killed and even Casey had a rogue agent on his team. The team was ripe for the pickings. Shaw knew this going in. Shaw’s ability to use information to his benefit was why he comes of smug in the beginning. It’s why I like it. Not ever good guy is a moral driver character like Chuck. Most people like the outlaw good guy because of the darkness the hero is willing to go. However, Shaw never claimed to be a hero just a spy out for revenge.
Shaw never hid the kind of person he was. He was a dangerous man that was sort after by the Ring. They did more to try to kill Daniel because he was close to defeating them. The Ring knew he had The Intersect at his disposal now which made Shaw that more dangerous.
Sydney wanted to hire Charles Carmichael to eliminate Shaw, but since she knew Carmichael was company loyalist. Sydney would force the issue by placing a explosive in Devon’s ear. We are dealing with pros here not the Lazlo’s of the world.
Shaw drives the team apart in First Class. He could of used Sarah here from the outset, but that would not due. The focus was to get Chuck working again. The motive was to get Chuck to act like a spy the program was designed to do. Chuck in Rome was ideal for Shaw, but not because he disliked Chuck, but all for the purpose of destroying The Ring. I agree with the motives here.
Sarah was apart of a group called The Cat Squad. Langston Graham’s wildcard enforcer. Chuck was known as the bumbling idiot. He said it best, “Sometimes he is Bond other times a Jerry Lewis comedy.” Shaw used information to drive the wedge you guys have talked about.
Look at how he broke Sarah, He systematically brought out her events in Lisbon. It’s easy for Shaw to gain information like spreading Bryce’s ashes over their first mission together, but Chuck being in Prague at the same time makes one question her. He does and Sarah begins to crack.
In our time of knowing Sarah, she never was directly questioned by anyone. It caught Sarah off guard. The same can be said about Quinn, Quinn’s attack never was about Chuck only. He would end up destroying her from a different perspective. Quinn’s motives was the same as Shaw’s but revenge was not revenging a wife’s murder, but being left for dead, Quinn’s actions are revenge motive based on hatred.
He explains how Bryce stole the Intersect from him, and how Team Bartowski shut down his three big clients, which angered Nicholas even more. Thus, Quinn was out for revenge for a different reason.
We know how dangerous Quinn is right from the start. His introduction was very cool. Thus, Quinn wins how he was introduced to the team.
Quinn comes off smarter than Shaw. He knows the Intersect and what devices to use to combat it. For example, We first are introduced to Quinn. He was in midst of dealing with Morgan and his frosted tips ego.
Quinn mentions the use of X13. A device that would make Morgan forget the past 24 hours and how confident he was in that would reveal his face to Morgan. What do we see in Quinn’s eyes that make him more dangerous than Shaw. We see hatred and seeking destruction already.
We don’t get that from Shaw. Daniel knows everything about the Intersect and it’s function, but he doesn’t know it like Nicholas does. Quinn knows the ins and outs of it. Quinn informs Chuck of this in their initial meet. “I’m former CIA, too. The Intersect was supposed to be mine.
But then Larkin stole it for you, so I went back out in the field, and I got captured. Oh, and tortured in a hole the ground, for 378 days. In a hole! That was the best. And then I was broken.
Dismissed. And all because the Intersect wasn’t mine.” Chuck tries to tell Quinn how dangerous the program was, but Quinn reminds Chuck of his biggest doubt. How Chuck’s wife was apart of what The Intersect brought him. Thus, Quinn’s gripe was with not being the Intersect and Chuck shutting down three of his biggest clients.
Quinn wins in a landslide over Daniel Shaw in the impactful introduction to the team.
Breaking Down Team Bartowski
When it comes to breaking down Chuck and his team, it’s a fair fight, but again Quinn wins based on one thing we know matters most to Chuck. Bartowski’s passion lies within his friends and family.
When Shaw comes to town, Sarah was manipulated and voiceless in the presence of Shaw, it builds fire and forces Chuck to use a real gun. It makes Sarah lose focus on how Shaw kept manipulating her into doing things Sarah normally didn’t do. Shaw toyed with Sarah in every possible way. He did it because he could. Chuck would make the save and use a real gun in doing so, but it wasn’t over here as we know. Shaw would reveal Chuck’s secret about his brain condition and used information to cause Sarah and Chuck to have rift afterwards. It would backfire on Shaw because Sarah would strike soon afterwards, but it was all apart of a plan to make her a fugitive. Shaw’s success would also be his failure. He would drive motivation out of the team when he kills Orion. It all but ends his hold on Sarah. The team would take down Shaw only to have to take him down again in S5. (more on this later) On the other hand, Quinn’s manipulation of Sarah begins here, Casey and Sarah were in a dire situation with no outs a tactical team was closing in on them. The only choice Sarah had was to put on the glasses. (This is my personal moment in which I reset the series.) The jump the shark moment for me really, but we shall save that discuss for the appropriate time.
Quinn did this with a plan soon after. He would systematically destroy Sarah as we know her. He first captures Chuck and forces Sarah to act. Sarah using the intersect a lot in a short time span caused problems. Quinn knew this. He told us about the side effects in the design. Thus, breaking down Team Bartowski by destroying Sarah. The moment that would kill the series in my view. The moment I am talking about is here, This would be the last time we see Sarah the same way. The woman who walked into the Buymore was soon going to be suppressed. While Shaw was able to be stopped, Quinn would take Sarah to a place which it would take too long for them to save her. The moment when Chuck’s friends and family would be altered forever. Sarah’s memories being wipe away essentially broke the spirits of Chuck. He was lost without her. Shaw may have been able to lure Sarah to Paris, but Quinn trapped her and essentially killed the Sarah we all knew because the results were this. Quinn broke Sarah by making her believe Chuck was the enemy. He manipulated Sarah to the point of returning her to the assassin we knew her to be before Burbank. A deadly enforcer Quinn used to kill her own husband and sister in law. However, what Quinn didn’t account for was how Chuck and Sarah were soulmates, but Quinn had a plan in place for that too, He would blow up the CIA building himself.
So, we can continue Quinn’s story, but we need some ammo for episode articles and Rewatch.
I don’t understand the idea of leaving a major character like Quinn for the last four episodes of the series. A character with this much value is wasted and really should of been the leader of the conspiracy. Quinn knew a lot about the intersect over Shaw and for that he is a better adversary for Team Bartowski. What do you guys and gals think?
So tell me your opinion below. Who had more impact Quinn or Shaw. Leave a comment below.
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